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Simon

I do put *some* effort into daily mindfulness and conscious lucidity while awake. But the concept of lucid dreaming is so far beyond my ken right now that I wouldn't even know where to begin.

marian

Simon, this is something I completely put aside while my son was growing up. Sleep was the main thing then. Before he was born, I was really interested in it and had some little successes. Right now my interest is still fairly lukewarm in terms of effort. Waking life seems like such a lot that I find myself craving oblivion at night more than lucidity--for better or worse.

Simon

Ah, sweet oblivion!
There was a time
I could find you
In the night.
I go there now, faithfully,
Every ending of the day,
And seek for you
With my eyes wide shut
And my senses adrift
And my consciousness slipping
Into the abyss
Where I know you reside

Only

To be pulled back from
The precipice
By the somnolent slap
Of tiny feet whose
Body and soul
Want to snuggle at
Two in the goddamn morning.

marian

I love that!!!! Did you write it?

At any rate, I thought to add that apparently (and I seem to remember that this is true) lucid dreaming sleep is much more restful than unconscious (usual) dreaming sleep. The effort takes place in the half hour or so before bed, when suggestions and alignment and intention have to be worked on. That's the rub, right there...

Simon

I did write that. Just sort of banged it out in five minutes with the honest sentiment swelling within me. On the plus side, I got seven hours of interrupted sleep last night for the first time in WEEKS and feel five kinds of fabulous this morning.

The only work I do in the half hour before bed is sometimes half-heartedly flirt with my wife, or read a chunk of the current bed-side book. So there's no effort made for lucid dreaming just yet.

Someday maybe...

Aileen

I love Simon's poem! I remember the days -- years -- when uninterrupted was a luxury.

Marian, thank you for sharing a variety of topics. I'm new to Buddhism and I find it interesting to hear about it from you. I practiced (western) lucid dreaming for a while years ago. I used some tapes to facilitate the process. Often, I couldn't tell the difference between an OBE and a lucid dream. Both experiences felt the same except on occasion for the content. The dream world is more fantastical. I found it useful in that in a lucid dream, because the dream is thought-responsive, you're able to consciously break though physical limitations like gravity, etc. That translated for me into seeing more clearly how limitations in the the waking dream though seemingly more solid, are just as unreal. I'm not practicing lucid dreaming anymore, but once in a while I have a lucid dream and I enjoy the feeling.

marian

Hi Aileen. You're welcome. I always like to integrate ideas from different sources--seems to be my thing for the moment--and I'm grateful to have readers who appreciate it. Although I'd probably keep doing it anyway! Good to have you back!

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